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    Vista Protected Applications

    Hi everbody!!!

    Windows Vista is really becoming a very attractive operating system.

    http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/vista/process_Vista.mspx

    The best part of the document:
    Do not attempt to circumvent this restriction by installing a kernel-mode component to access the memory of a protected process because the system and third-party applications may rely on the fact that protected processes are signed code that is run in a contained environment.
    Vista will be so cool

    Regards,
    Opcode

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    BAHAHAHAAAAaaaaaaaa

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    signed code, shit!

    i honestly appreciate these movements, it makes all more spicy! :devil:

    somehow i find it really interesting how ms attemts to implement tighter security. they have some good ideas and I watch the model they build up.
    we will see if the theory will survive in practice hehe.

    cheers,

    0x3c004>>2 ;)

    PS:
    Note
    Certain process properties (such as the working set) can be indirectly changed through membership in a job object.

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    Also, don't forget that if software isn't enough to crack, there's always hardware

    I doubt the RAM is encrypted

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    without going to explain the things, the interesting is that new Vista will have a totally new dynamical rings structure, as also in the two slides I extracted from existing presentations for you..
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    im wondering if they are really using all 4 rings now, instead of only 0 and 3

    but i guess, they did the priv. separation through a more restrictive api
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    Yes, it would definitely be cool when the really implement all the 4 rings
    As far as I know there isn't any other x86 OS which does so, but please correct me if I'm wrong ....
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    the reason for having only 0 and 3 was coming from the support of alpha processors, which have only 2 rings. Unill all the supported platforms will have the same rings MS will be able to support also the missing rings, but up to now it's only a caracteristic of intel processors.
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    i just wish all exe packers would work fine :P

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    http://download.microsoft.com/download/A/B/3/AB39CA51-CA4E-4B43-8714-28498E200D0E/VistaSecurityForDevelopers.ppt

    Here is a powerpoint document about security under Vista for developers.
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    About "Service profiling":
    "...enables service to restrict IT'S behavior"
    What kind of censorship is that ?! OS will temper 'certified' code? What for?...

    If all this 'os-protecting' will ever see the light, how os will find out that one app needs access to printer, and other low-level hdd. Maybe there will be certificates that allow access to devices/memory pages...;P

    F001 ! \m/
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    OMG, ORC called my name!!

    I did not look into that further, but I guess there could be policies applied or ... blah. I think the theory is to make the systems more secure / robust with more granularity on control. I just fear the implementation, as M$ code ..... well .... I guess we all saw some of it allready , also the implementation I am afraid is sometimes a bit not matching reality and appears like just somebody did something (hyped as the ultra feature) and in reality it turns out as totally annoying, not helping and just truning all good ideas into shit. sorry my language
    (Like "super user" confirmations preventing you from work ahem)

    regards, 0xf001

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    Signed code and "Do not attempt to circumvent this restriction", my ass.

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp

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    look for joannas blog she says she is going to present some pills for SINGED DRIVERS (no no misspelling she spelt it like that )

    hehe

    edit oops the link in deltas post above points to same story

    and silver posted this in offtopic

    well i still get the bronze trophy
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    Actually, you get "dipped in bronze", which is a totally different category of "reward", altogether.

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