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  1. #1
    firebat
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    Help: Hardlock & then what...

    I have a hardlock 1.02 usb program.
    I have used HL-DUMP from Sp0Raw to get the reg data (8k). Looks good
    I merged it into my registy.
    I then try using haspemuxp.
    But the program still tells me no hardlock installed.
    Don't know what i am doing wrong.

    Please email me if you don't want to speak on forum.
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  2. #2
    firebat
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    I also try to use the start & stop services hardlock & haspnt.
    described in comment #2 of here
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  3. #3
    Where is the part of your Post where you demonstrate that you have actually read the FAQ??? Where do YOU explain what YOU have done to research your problem and tried to determine the answers YOURSELF? Where do YOU explain what you have attempted in searching for information on your project on hardlock 1.02 usb, either here or on the net? You've only indicated you read at least one thread here and that you tried a couple of tools, but what have YOU done to prepare your brain for cracking HASP USB? Are you just blindly attempting to follow one tutorial or article or have you actually started with a study of the subject itself??

    These are things you should indicate before you will generally get help here. Simply stating you used two tools and don't understand the result doesn't really indicate you have tried to help yourself, and that is required here. This is not the place where someone "teaches" you how to reverse HASPs.

    You are supposed to learn most of the basics on your own and ask for help when you get stuck along the way. That is not the same thing as asking for help when you haven't studied and tried to help yourself and simply clicked on a couple of tools and didn't get the response you were expecting.

    So please tell us what YOU have done to try to solve this issue, besides asking someone to give you the answer???

    Regards,
    JMI

  4. #4
    firebat
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    I have read the FAQ and I have search the forum for my questions. The only part that I am missing is actually using all that I have learned. I tried to do all I can on my own. I have try and use every program on Crackz page that I thought would help. I have followed whatever instructions there are that come with any program I tried to follow them exactly. I have been thought most of Crackz pages. I have learned how these devices work and I believe I have the basics of the logic behind Hasp. I am not new to forums and programming. So I do respect the rules of them. I am sorry if it sounded like I was trying to take the easy way out. I have been working on this for like a week. This not my first experience. I used to work on a much older Sentinel Lpt device. But the HASP is a little more difficult for me.

    I have try using the Hardlock Envelope by editing the app. files using winhex and replacing the required drivers refs. - no good.

    I have try using the Hardlock Monitor that gave me a good output of when the program was access the Key and return infor from the key. I can attach that file if anyone wants to look at it.

    I have try using BrainStudio's HASP 4 dumper but I couldn't get it to work. But I read in a couple of post that is a good way to start. But I believe I got the same in information from HL-dump.

    I have tried most of the emulators I can find. I believe I am up to the part of trying to emulator the device because I have the keys & the tables from the device.
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  5. #5

    Hi,

    Assuming that that hasp 4 and hardlock uses same tech i will advise u to download glashas hasp emulator a002. Find it and use it. It should work. Sparows dump wont work get dmp2reg 1.5 ver from crackz site and then create reg file. Hope it should work.

  6. #6
    firebat:

    Your third Post is much more informative that your first two. The point of my comments is that we get large numbers of first time posters who do not read our Rules and ignore the requirements that an effort be both made and shown that one has attempted to help oneself, before asking the members to assist. I pointed out your "lack of indication you had tried", both for your benefit and for the many other "newbie" posters who read these Forums.

    The point was simply to get you, and those others to state the general information we expect. Until you do so, we can not know whether you are a conscientious poster who has followed the Rules or not. You appear to have made a serious effort on your own and, by your third try, you clearly indicated what that effort had been. That is all we ask you, and the others to do.

    I simply remind all the newer posters (notice I did not say "newbies" because these comments are directed at those who haven't posted here before or often) that if they don't tell us what they have done, we certainly won't know.

    Good luck with your project.

    Regards,

    Again
    JMI

  7. #7
    firebat
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    Quote Originally Posted by rituraj
    Assuming that that hasp 4 and hardlock uses same tech i will advise u to download glashas hasp emulator a002. Find it and use it. It should work. Sparows dump wont work get dmp2reg 1.5 ver from crackz site and then create reg file. Hope it should work.
    Thanks for your help saber.
    I do have glashas emulator. I got it to reg the passwords from the program but when I "try HASP Grab" is says dongle xxxx:xxxx not found. But it is install and the program works normally. Very werid!

    I been trying to use glashas command line dumper "h4dmp" also but that keeps giving me "Error! hasp not found or not installed original hasp drivers." but I know I have haspnt & hardlock installed & running. The only thing I can thing of why it's not working is because haspdos not running? But I dont believe that is the case.

    Now I am struck unable to dump from the device using glashas programs.
    Any other suggestions?
    Last edited by firebat; September 18th, 2005 at 01:40. Reason: spelling
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  8. #8
    The haspemuxp can emulate only hasp keys, but cannot emulate hardlock.
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  9. #9
    firebat
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    Quote Originally Posted by s0cpy
    The haspemuxp can emulate only hasp keys, but cannot emulate hardlock.
    I thought of that. But on haspemuxp website. It says

    Quote Originally Posted by website
    !!! ANNOUNCEMENT !!!

    Support HARDLOCK dongles is added.
    Support SENTINEL dongles is added.
    Support NOVEX GUARDANT Fidus/Stealth/Stealth II.



    [25.05.2005]
    Support Windows 95/98/ME operational systems for
    NOVEX GUARDANT Fidus/Stealth/Stealth II
    and SENTINEL Emulators.

    [10.02.2005]
    Support NOVEX GUARDANT Fidus/Stealth/Stealth II.

    [10.09.2004]
    Support SENTINEL dongles is added.

    [28.08.2004]
    Support HARDLOCK dongles is added.
    I think that, maybe the verison I am using is does not support it. And I am killing myself for no reason. But even if it can't emulate HL, it would be nice to get a good dump from the key. From the website I believe it can do at least that. If I find the right verison.
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  10. #10
    Hiya firebat,

    The problem here is your muddling of the 2 technologies, HASP & Hardlock are both owned by Aladdin and used to be separately developed products. About 3 years ago Aladdin ceased developing Hardlock and merged the access routines, now all Hardlock and HASP access is via Hardlock.sys.

    The version of Glasha's emulator you are using supports only HASP (as s0cpy has pointed out below), in fact I think I've even written that on my site somewhere ;-), at a later stage Hardlock support was added by the author.

    Hardlock emulation is accomplished by recovery of 3 internal seeds and possession of the algorithm that uses them, sp0raw's dumper allows the complexity of a brute force attack to be reduced. Hardlocks are identified via modAd's (module addresses).

    HASP's are accessed by the 2 HASP passwords, full emulation requires 8 rounds of encryption data to produce the 2016-bit EDStructure.

    I intend to publish a much more detailed disclosure of Hardlock very soon, sadly my time is rather limited right now, unless someone very rich would care to 'sponsor' me some time off from the tedium of working for a living ;-).

    Regards

    CrackZ.

  11. #11
    firebat
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    Thank you Crackz for the detailed infor. If my verison doesn't support HL. Can someone tell me which one would. I have the HL modAd's & I believe 2 HASP passwords, I would be interested in trying the brute force attack. I will be looking into that. I can't wait till you pubish something more on Hardlock. Then I can see what I am missing. I wish I could sponsor you but I didn't will the lottery last night. If there anything else I can do please just name it.

    I was thinking if I use assemly to kill the calls to the hardlock. I believe that would be simpler, right? I see in the forum that there is alot of assemly hacking, and looks like the way of most of the hardcore coders. The only problem is I haven't use assemly in like almost 10 years. I think this would be my last resort. Time to go brush up all on the pushs, pops, calls.

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  12. #12
    Hello firebat,

    Rather than spoil time on all emulators floating why not simply unpacking & dump, then emualte the api calls used. Its not at all hard to learn. Also you have the dongles so whats stopping you from doing that.

    Lastly all dongles are very very easy if you have it while RE it & vice versa

    Regards, Sope!
    Read to Lead

  13. #13

    I want to learn

    Hi sope,
    I thought u loved writing emulators rather than patching. Anyways i would love to unpack and dump if only i had a good tutor like u . So when do we start ??

    REGARDS

  14. #14
    PVA
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    EDStruct for HASP based on 3 seeds that can be calculated from password.
    www.nodongle.biz
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  15. #15
    angel.tdw!
    Guest
    hey bro... i 2 have searched many forums in search of a hasp hl emulator...

    but couldnt find any... i just have the dump for the hasp...thats hasp.dmp

    and hhl_mem.dmp. that i dumped using the toro dongle monitor...

    now 2day i got my hands on unidump2reg....

    now just waiting 2 get any emu for the reg file....

    thanx

    TDW {RES}
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