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  1. #1
    DaFixer
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    First beta of new DeDe available

    it can be found here:


    http://www.balbaro.com/ftp/dede/dede.3.20.04.prerls.rar


    there are still things which are not completely working or not working at all.

    The dsf editor is fully functional. Can be accesed via "show functions" from Options->Symbols menu for a loaded dsf file.

    The dfm editor is mostly done. It can not save in changes in the executable. There is still what to want from the form recreation. Btw it is done in a smart way and im searching for a smart way to finish it

    Clicking on a button disassembles the OnClick event handler for this button. If you see in the disassembly "* reference to control ...." click on it )

    Thats it for now. Waiting for comments and ideas.

    The debugger probably will be a separate application distributed with DeDe. Im also working on it.

    Oh and there are some improvenemts for a classes list. Try the popup menu or clicking on the columns.
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  2. #2
    DaFixer
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    note

    dont try the dfm editor with DeDe itself
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  3. #3

    Unhappy

    when started it shows an exception error
    "access violation at 77F6754B in ntdll.dll, read
    of address 000027" but in runs

    on loading a delphi 5 program it shows another
    exception and does nothing ...

    also it doesnt want to exit, "exception error"

    maybe it is not NT compatible ?

    cya
    TBD

    btw, it shows the same problems in
    Dede 3.10b build 1525 (exe only)
    Last edited by TBD; August 16th, 2002 at 14:30.

  4. #4
    DaFixer
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    Originally posted by TBD
    when started it shows an exception error
    "access violation at 77F6754B in ntdll.dll, read
    of address 000027" but in runs

    on loading a delphi 5 program it shows another
    exception and does nothing ...

    also it doesnt want to exit, "exception error"

    maybe it is not NT compatible ?

    cya
    TBD

    btw, it shows the same problems in
    Dede 3.10b build 1525 (exe only)
    I develop it on Win98 and test it on Win2k and Win98. Give me a link to that delphi 5 program that crashes the processing
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  5. #5
    DaFixer
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    Originally posted by TBD
    btw, it shows the same problems in
    Dede 3.10b build 1525 (exe only)
    btw you can get delphi, compile it and debug sources to see why it crashes on NT
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  6. #6

    bad prg

    the program is BeyondCompare 1.9f [old version, 2.0 is now
    available]

    http://www.scootersoftware.com/bc19f.exe

    i cannot get delphi, so i cannot test the software.
    maybe there is someone with NT to test it

  7. #7
    DaFixer
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    Re: bad prg

    quote:
    the program is BeyondCompare 1.9f

    just to let you know there is no problem processing this program on win2k
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  8. #8
    DaFixer
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    next beta

    find it here

    http://www.balbaro.com/ftp/dede/dede.3.20.04.prerls.rar
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  9. #9

    Red face my fault

    dumb me ...
    after unzipin' 3.02full and replacing with 3.20 exe
    it works like a charm

    nice work dafixer and *thank you*,
    TBD

  10. #10

    exporting to softice...

    I get a 'Softice is not active or hidden...' when I try to export.
    I'm using SoftICE 4.25.something... on w2k.
    Could you just include an option NOT to check first?

    /Manko

  11. #11
    DaFixer
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    Re: exporting to softice...

    quote:
    I get a 'Softice is not active or hidden...' when I try to export.
    I'm using SoftICE 4.25.something... on w2k.

    well i use the oldest detection method for softice with checking for devices called SICE, SIWVID or NTICE with CreateFile. This should also catch sice on 2k right? If you have hidden your softice with another program then it wont be detected.

    quote:
    Could you just include an option NOT to check first?

    why you need option not to check for softice ?
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  12. #12

    Re: Re: exporting to softice...

    Originally posted by DaFixer
    quote:
    I get a 'Softice is not active or hidden...' when I try to export.
    I'm using SoftICE 4.25.something... on w2k.

    well i use the oldest detection method for softice with checking for devices called SICE, SIWVID or NTICE with CreateFile. This should also catch sice on 2k right? If you have hidden your softice with another program then it wont be detected.

    quote:
    Could you just include an option NOT to check first?

    why you need option not to check for softice ?
    As far as I know I have not hidden softice in any way...
    Still dede doesn't see it. (?!)
    So that's why I would like dede to be able to export sym and load in softice, anyway.

    /Manko

  13. #13
    DaFixer
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    Re: Re: Re: exporting to softice...

    quote:
    As far as I know I have not hidden softice in any way...
    Still dede doesn't see it. (?!)

    May be someone can point me why its not detected on Win2K and probably how is called the device it creates on nt. I guessed it is SICE no?

    quote:
    So that's why I would like dede to be able to export sym and load in softice, anyway.

    You can compile and load the map file by your self. Just use the .map file output and the tools to compile this map file which are deployed with softice. Btw DeDe uses exactly the same tools. I dont remember the name of the compiler byheart at the moment.

    What i can do is to ask the user for confirmation to continue even when softice is not detected.
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  14. #14

    Re: Re: Re: Re: exporting to softice...

    Originally posted by DaFixer
    quote:
    You can compile and load the map file by your self. Just use the .map file output and the tools to compile this map file which are deployed with softice. Btw DeDe uses exactly the same tools. I dont remember the name of the compiler byheart at the moment.
    Thanks for the tip!

    Originally posted by DaFixer
    quote:
    What i can do is to ask the user for confirmation to continue even when softice is not detected.
    That would be great!

    /Manko

  15. #15
    Qwer
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    DeDe and import

    2 DaFixer :

    I find small 'bug' : Dede can't process unpacked programs if it import section is not have name '.idata'. If i rename import section to '.idata' all work correct. ( This 'bug' not work on not original (not packed/unpacked) programs, i try to rename .idata section to other name, but all work correct )

    Sorry for my poor english.
    Best regards, Qwer
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