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  1. #31
    npanic
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    uncrackable...... yeah right

    If this forum is the only place u releashed a Code-Lock protected proggy, then maybe, just maybe ur right that it's not cracked yet, but if it's spread all over cyberspace then u can be sure that it has been ripped apart,cracked,hacked, and maybe even abused in a way u don't even have the imagination to understand.

    BTW, if u really r so hooked on getting ur protection cracked, then why don't u release it elsewhere. We r newbies here, just learning, and ur protection is not that exciting. I rather crack WinZip a few times more that wasting time on ur stupid VB protection.

    P.S.
    I don't hate u, i just don't like ur childish way to ask for help...
    I'm hard but fair,,, u only got what u deserved, no more and nothing less.
    I promise that I have read the FAQ and tried to use the Search to answer my question.

  2. #32
    Ryan
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    Re: uncrackable...... yeah right

    Originally posted by npanic
    We r newbies here, just learning, and ur protection is not that exciting. I rather crack WinZip a few times more that wasting time on ur stupid VB protection.

    P.S.
    I don't hate u, i just don't like ur childish way to ask for help...
    I'm hard but fair,,, u only got what u deserved, no more and nothing less.
    Well, for one, my protection is much more interesting than normal VB programs. Check out the anti-smartchecks if you want, although smartcheck is pretty useless in cracking my program. Just a little diversion tactic...

    Secondly, my protection is not stupid either. It is far more intelligent than more VB protections I see. You can crack WinZip a thousand times for all I care. But you won't learn anything much after cracking it 10 times. Maybe you are aiming to code a key generator using assemble langauge by heart...

    I don't care what you say about the protection because I know you will not be able to crack it since 1) you are a newbie 2) you know next to nothing besides cracking WinZip 3) you will never progress if you just crack WinZip and call yourself a cracker.

    Be leet
    Ryan
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  3. #33
    Eustace
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    @ first i didnt wanted to respond on this thread, but as continued reading ur childish replys, i just got more irritated as i was and i felt that i just must reply on this.

    So so, u made the 'ultimate protection'? Hoera! And u are asking a newbie to crack it? That's lame dude. Ur asking for something that u by forhand know that we cant do it. Does that gives u satisfaction? I think that just proves that ur protection is just above the average noob-level and becoz of that, the newbies cant crack it. Or are u scared that some real cracker cracks it and therefor u ask a newbie to do it?

    I suggest that u crack the program ur self and then improve the protection.
    And if u are a cool guy, write a tutorial about it so that the newbies can studie it

    btw, why code in VB? Vb is from Micro$oft and M$ = Evil, so VB = Evil. So we can make the conclusion: Ryan = Evil, or is it Ryan = M$
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  4. #34
    Ryan
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    So so, u made the 'ultimate protection'? Hoera! And u are asking a newbie to crack it? That's lame dude. Ur asking for something that u by forhand know that we cant do it. Does that gives u satisfaction? I think that just proves that ur protection is just above the average noob-level and becoz of that, the newbies cant crack it. Or are u scared that some real cracker cracks it and therefor u ask a newbie to do it?

    I post it here because this is the only messagaboard with a big collection of crackers, from newbies to oldies. It does not give me satisfaction that no one can crack it at all. I repeat again that I am even more happy when someone finally crack it.



    I suggest that u crack the program ur self and then improve the protection.
    And if u are a cool guy, write a tutorial about it so that the newbies can studie it

    Unfortunately, I have limited talents. I can only code but not crack. That's why I am asking the specialists in this area.



    btw, why code in VB? Vb is from Micro$oft and M$ = Evil, so VB = Evil. So we can make the conclusion: Ryan = Evil, or is it Ryan = M$

    I take it that you are using linux? If you use any of MS's programs anywhere, anytime, then you must be evil too... an also hypocrite as well.


    Best regards for even bothering to reply.
    Ryan
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  5. #35
    Eustace
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    btw, why code in VB? Vb is from Micro$oft and M$ = Evil, so VB = Evil. So we can make the conclusion: Ryan = Evil, or is it Ryan = M$

    I take it that you are using linux? If you use any of MS's programs anywhere, anytime, then you must be evil too... an also hypocrite as well.
    M$'proggies ? Yeah, only to crack
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  6. #36
    Hiya,

    I don't normally read this forum so forgive my late arrival to this thread ;-).

    Rather than indulge in what seems to be a fairly pointless slagging match, perhaps both sides here should consider the following points :

    1. To Ryan : if you want us to take your protection or stated aims seriously, take us seriously, produce a crackme or trial with a stated goal, i.e. an endpoint to be reached, better yet give us your end product protector as you might ship to a developer, since ultimately your system has to withstand internal scrutiny.

    As I'm sure you are aware, the analysis that you are searching for would cost a lot of $ and might not prove very effective either, so there also has to be an incentive for someone (us?) to sit down for a day just for the hell of it tracing your code, writing code thats boring to trace is easy, writing code thats truly innovative is a different ballgame altogether, the playground pissing contest mentality just won't fly here ;-).

    2. Everyone should lose the issue as to what language the protection is coded in, since its pretty much irrelevant, the stated challenge or goal is to assess how effective this product really is. All a runtime protection system buys you, is time, and well implemented encryption might buy you safety from key generators. Don't bet on it though. A very well implemented system might also save you from 'generic' attacks i.e. crack 1, crack them all.

    3. Ryan : consider your attaching of a value to your product as a bad thing, asking us to attach a value might be a better idea ;-), there are bad protectors costing thousands of $ and good ones costing tens of $ (and vice-a-versa), its a very big jungle out there, consider whether your product actually brings anything really new to the market and also how it compares with those that are already out there.

    I respect you for posting here, or at least for trying not to sell snake-oil. Consider also that unless you are actually prepared to 'HIRE' or incentivise some 'REAL' crackers your software might just have to find out the hard way, when it winds up in the commercial world.

    My 2c and then some.....

    Regards

    CrackZ.

  7. #37
    Ryan
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    Originally posted by CrackZ
    1. To Ryan : if you want us to take your protection or stated aims seriously, take us seriously, produce a crackme or trial with a stated goal, i.e. an endpoint to be reached, better yet give us your end product protector as you might ship to a developer, since ultimately your system has to withstand internal scrutiny.
    I have earlier on produced a crackme that is similar in format to some of the crackmes I downloaded and has uploaded it onto this site. It is on the first page and has been download 229 times. My product has already been shipped and ready for download and use. The ocx that is in the crackme is slightly older but anyone can always download the newest and replace the old one.



    As I'm sure you are aware, the analysis that you are searching for would cost a lot of $ and might not prove very effective either, so there also has to be an incentive for someone (us?) to sit down for a day just for the hell of it tracing your code, writing code thats boring to trace is easy, writing code thats truly innovative is a different ballgame altogether, the playground pissing contest mentality just won't fly here ;-).
    Well, I think the code won't be too boring to trace and might be interesting... The helpfile available from the shipped package (available on my site) tells you all the functions there are in Code-Lock and I believe it would interest any crackers who are not bias against the language it is written in.



    2. Everyone should lose the issue as to what language the protection is coded in, since its pretty much irrelevant, the stated challenge or goal is to assess how effective this product really is. All a runtime protection system buys you, is time, and well implemented encryption might buy you safety from key generators. Don't bet on it though. A very well implemented system might also save you from 'generic' attacks i.e. crack 1, crack them all.
    Agreed thoroughly.



    3. Ryan : consider your attaching of a value to your product as a bad thing, asking us to attach a value might be a better idea ;-), there are bad protectors costing thousands of $ and good ones costing tens of $ (and vice-a-versa), its a very big jungle out there, consider whether your product actually brings anything really new to the market and also how it compares with those that are already out there.
    Initially, when Code-Lock was in beta stages, I posted a request to gauge how much a protection like this would cost. Well, the response is similar to the postings in this thread... "Vb = bad = lame", "I can't be bothered to crack vb" etc etc etc...

    As for whether my product has brought any new ideas in protections, well, only a cracker can find that out. I can only say that I have added some pretty new stuff but am not sure if it has been used before.



    I respect you for posting here, or at least for trying not to sell snake-oil. Consider also that unless you are actually prepared to 'HIRE' or incentivise some 'REAL' crackers your software might just have to find out the hard way, when it winds up in the commercial world.
    I respect you for posting such a decent post unlike some of the newbies. Well, you are one of the oldies and maybe that influences your thinking. Code-Lock is already in the commercial world waiting to be cracked but I have not found anyone showing me that it has been done.

    Regards
    Ryan
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  8. #38
    Ryan
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    Program protected by Code-Lock

    Well,
    I had to sacrifice one of my freewares for Code-Lock. Slice-n-Save is now demoware and is protected by Code-Lock. Now that there is a real program, will there be anyone cracking it? Or will I be told that it is not worth the time and effort again?

    http://www.rtsoftware.org

    Regards
    Ryan
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  9. #39
    Teach, Not Flame Kayaker's Avatar
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    Hi,

    I've been trying for a few days now and I just cannot connect to your site. Home or work, any browser, with or without personal firewall. The closest I can get is with Opera, there's a small frame at the bottom of the page with a button that leads to an error message page:

    Websense Enterprise
    "Your Websense policy blocks this page at all times."


    I'm assuming this isn't part of the protection , so I figured I'd let you know...

    Kayaker

  10. #40
    Howdy,

    The link works, somewhere you are picking up an internet filter.

    I can email the file to you its only 1.04.
    Let me know.

    Peace, Woodmann

  11. #41
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    Hi!

    Kayaker, i had the same problem some days ago but today i have download the file without any problem.

    time to inspect this code_lock....

    ZaiRoN

  12. #42
    Ryan
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    URLs...

    http://www.soundcheck.hostingextreme.com/~rtsoftware/slice_n_save.zip
    http://rtsoftware.digitalrice.com/slice_n_save.zip
    http://rtsoftware.host.sk/slice_n_save.zip
    http://www.maxi-web.net/rtsoftware/slice_n_save.zip

    One of them should work...

    Slice-n-Save Version 1.05
    Last updated 18th July 2002

    Regards
    Many thanks
    Ryan
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  13. #43
    Athlon
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    *This is only my opinion* I think when you guys crack it (I say when cuz I know someone will) Don't tell him how wait till he has a few clients then release the tut so we can all tear apart it protection. and I'm sure everyone here knows the purpose of him doing this cuz he is to cheap to pay someone to test it for him so he wants us to find the weaknesses so he can improve on it anyway just my 2 cents and Ryan your protection will be cracked and reversered and tore apart and put back together again its happen to every protection that has come and yours is no different I aint saying it will happen right away but it will happen
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  14. #44
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    cool

    Hey your slice n save program looks pretty cool - I mean I like the GUI and the cool graphic "When it just doesn't seem to fit".

    HAHA nice function in the ocx "killFileMon"



    -nt20
    Last edited by nikolatesla20; July 18th, 2002 at 14:03.

  15. #45
    Ryan
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    Re: cool

    Originally posted by nikolatesla20
    Hey your slice n save program looks pretty cool - I mean I like the GUI and the cool graphic "When it just doesn't seem to fit".

    HAHA nice function in the ocx "killFileMon"



    -nt20
    Hi,
    nice to see this is finally getting somewhere.

    Do crack it. Good luck.

    Regards
    Ryan

    PS. If you like my programs, feel free to register privately. heehee
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