Cryptography ( As posted by EtErNaL_L0ser)

[Woodmann]

Why dont we have a forum dedicated to Cryptography?To discuss DES MD5 El-Gamal RSA PGP and others....

[Bengaly]

Sound cool, but 80% of the ppl won't understand
The topic ;-) unless it's interested in some way or
some ppl actually learn it :-)
but i'd say..GO FOR IT :-)
bye

[EtErNaL_L0ser]

I am reading Applied Cryptography and its software implementation seems to be fun and challanging

[Kythen]

I'm all for it! I'd also speculate you'd get a few more advanced RE ppl to crawl out of the shadows for such a forum, as it's one of the primary areas of research lately. It's good to have someplace for the more advanced RE enthusiasts to play. There's a spot for newbies, and one for general RE topics, but not much for advanced things... and especially crypto.

Cheers!

[DakienDX]

Hello everybody !

Sounds good

But we must define what belongs to the forum and what not.
I think we wouldn't like posts like "how does asprotect crypto work?"

We must define if only known cryptography belongs into the forum or if we can discuss algorithms which seem to be real cryptography, but are only XOR/ROR/ROL/ADD/SUB algorithms in the end. (I know real cryptography uses this too, but in an other way)

We must also prevent posts like "Can please somebody bruteforce RSA-xxx in program yyy for me?"

If all these things are checked, then why not a crypto board?

[EtErNaL_L0ser]

I am totally agree with u Dakien No Lame Post! And starting with XOR would be really cool

[DakienDX]

Hello EtErNaL_L0ser !

I would like to start with

@@1:
  Lodsb
  Xor AL,1
  Stosb
  Loop @@1

Is this o.k. for the beginning?
Or should e start with something more difficult like adding one ROR?



Hello tsehp !
Hello woodmann !

Who's going to be the moderator/administrator for the crypto board if we get one?

[Woodmann]

A moderator for the Crypto forum huh?

Lets figure out the direction the forum shall take first.
If you are happy with what you have discussed then I will start the forum.

As always, use common sense, (I know that you all will),
and everything will be wonderful.

Oh, post some gudelines to include on the front page.

Peace, Woodmann

[EtErNaL_L0ser]

Dakien I am real newbie in software implementation ýf cryptography even XOR lol I better watch the forum and learn we can start with reading in www.counterpane.com . Really good essays


And who will be the moderator? Woodman +tsehp or another +HCU strainer would be ok I think

Out of the topic I wonder who voted for No! lol

[DakienDX]

Hello woodmann !

I agree with you. We must have everything discussed clearly before starting a new forum.

I see 19 "yes" and one "no" in the poll. But only 9 replies (three from me, one from you). So I think we should hear more voices on the topic before deciding about if (or if not) we should create a new forum.

A reply from someone being familiar with cryptography would be a nice addition to this poll.

Final question: What can we use the forum for?
I think no one can explain why RSA works or why SHA was converted to SHA-1.
All other crypto algorithms are well documented and commented by cryptographical specialists.

So the question: Not "if" or "if not", just WHY

[Woodmann]

DakienDX,
You raise a very good point.

I shall leave it too you all, what reason do we start this forum?

I don't see any restrictions. You can discuss anything related to crypto.
Of course I would like to see how it works and how, if possible, it can be reversed/defeated.

Peace, Woodmann

[McCodEMaN]

Greetings!

I belive that this is an excellent idea!
Over the years I've practised RCE the relationship with cryptography has grown, and I belive that you all feel the same.
Today the knowledge and understanding of cryptography tend to have a major impact on both RCE and computer science in general.

So why should we start this forum when they already exist elseware?

The answer is simple and I think we can come up with many good reasons. I for one hope that that this forum (if created) will help ppl. to exchange ideas on how to apply the knowledge on RCE tasks, along with cryptography in general.

Best Regards
\\McCodEMaN [TRES2000]

[EtErNaL_L0ser]

Although I am the owner of this suggestion I think we should close this topic because topic has more than 200 views but only 22 votes.This s**.Even +tsehp didnt make a little comment on subject .So we better close this topic

Best Regards

CARTMAN aka DaWsOn aka EtErNaL_L0ser

[DakienDX]

Hello everybody !

I can't vote again, but here's my vote no. 2: "NO"

I think EtErNaL_L0ser is right, we should close this topic.

270 views and 22 votes is nothing unusual, and tsehp may be busy at the moment (I can only find one post in the last 11 days from him), but this discussion arrived a dead point.

Cryptography may be discussed as before on the RCE General, because is has to do with general reversing (most of the time )

[EtErNaL_L0ser]

Great to hear that!