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    DVD ripping problem.


    I have a DVD with a form of encryption that is not CSS.
    The disk will only play on DVD players(AKA home players) or a box that has Roxio installed on it.

    The disk itself cannot be copied. All you get is a black screen if you try to play it. All commercial ripper programs hang when they are started.

    The disk has the standard ifo, vob and bup files.
    It has the standard video_ts folder.
    It also has a folder called opendvd. In that folder is a clickme.htm, untitled.dvd and opendvd.pvm files.

    After some research I determined that roxio is the program that created the DVD.

    The DVD has a generic title (it is not a regular, buy at the store or rent movie), 0709070900.iso.

    No iso program recognizes it. So it must have been named with that extension for a reason ? (to prevent copying).

    Yet stick it in the DVD player connected to the tv and the damn thing auto plays.

    Since I cannot rip or copy the files, I need a way to figure out WTF is protecting this disk. I know for a fact that it is protected because the person who made it claimed it could not be ripped.

    What I need is some video/dvd ripping gurus who have some skills outside of CSS that can suggest a way to determine what is protecting this disk.

    I have no idea of what tools to use to even begin this adventure.

    Any suggestions?

    Oh, a copy of the disk is only $20.00. I dont care about the dollars.
    Like all of you's, I need to know .


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    If you want to ripped to avi you can try avs video converter or Pazara free mp4

    Reverse the code,Reverse Your Minds First

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    <script>alert(0)</script> disavowed's Avatar
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    you might want to look around and

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    The fact that it plays in a "normal" DVD player is very curious indeed. Might it be the old "rootkit" DRM trick used by e.g. Sony earlier, i.e. that when you insert the disc into a (Windows) computer, it auto-installs drivers that will mess up any attempt to rip it (and that also hides the rootkit files from the disc from that point on)?

    Have you tried to rip or play it from e.g. a Linux system? From that Linux system, also check to see if there is any autorun.ini-file or similar in the root of the disc, that is not visible from your Windows computer.

    Sony seems to have a fancy protection systen for DVDs too:

    But this was not a Sony disc, right? I don't think they have "released" their protection system to anyone else.
    "Give a man a quote from the FAQ, and he'll ignore it. Print the FAQ, shove it up his ass, kick him in the balls, DDoS his ass and kick/ban him, and the point usually gets through eventually."

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    This is a system called Roxio Opendvd.

    Some information to get you started:

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    I will thank you all for your suggestions BUT, I have already discovered those things.

    What I dont need is another ready made DVD tool or someone to search for me.

    Heres what I "learned" today.
    Dos= No
    *nix= No

    I know that Roxio(sonic) DVD Producer 1.0 is what burned the disk.
    I know that I can rip all the files except the vob files.
    I know that Roxio DVDit (new incarnation of DVD Producer) does include the ability to encrypt a disk. (adapted from DVD Producer 1.0)
    I know that a hex editor hangs when I try to open any vob file.
    I know that DVD Decrypter hangs with this error:"pack header not found 0x00000000".
    I know that all the low level vob tools I can find dont work.
    I know that all the DVD decrypting tools dont work.
    I know that the file is named .iso and no iso prog will open it.

    What I need:
    A tool that can open any file (vob preferred) so I can see the structure of the vob and make changes.



    Addendum: I did not search the directory's while playing in Linux.
    I will try to get to it tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodmann View Post
    A tool that can open any file (vob preferred) so I can see the structure of the vob and make changes.
    I know not of which I speak, but..

    "VOB files are Basicly just Mpeg2 files"

    So, if you can view/modify mpeg2...

    010 Editor has binary templates for several formats. While they don't have one specifically for mpeg2 (unless you can find one), there is one for mp3 which has in its source:

    // MPEG frames support:
    // * MPEG-1, MPEG-2

    Maybe you can glean something from 010 editor or the mpeg2-not-vob format approach?

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    So why not post the same question to doom9 forums? That is the best place to ask anything about decrypting dvd's.

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    I shall try the 010 prog then its off to the doom9 forums.

    Thanks, Woodmann

    A follow up, 010 works kind of. It will scan the vob's that are not encrypted.
    Of course that doesnt help me but at least I know it works better than anything else.

    Doom9's forum posting rules are pretty lame.
    I have to wait 5 days before I can reply or post.

    I think they should include that nifty little tidbit on their registration page.
    "BTW, you have to wait 5 days to post or reply".

    The captcha in the registration and verification email is not enough?

    Seriously lame.
    Last edited by Woodmann; June 24th, 2009 at 22:08. Reason: doom9's posting policy.

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    you might want to try using cdrwin on it to glean some more information regarding the tracks and raw data layout on the disc

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    Thanks disa, I will check that out.

    I am getting closer. I did manage to rip the video but there are still some problems. (most likely related to encryption).

    The video will play but there are assorted problems that I will disclose later.

    When this is all over I will write a document called "The REAL guide on how to rip ANY dvd".


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    Heres your guide to rip any dvd.

    Rip it with the protection intact .

    Use MagicISO to rip and burn. Use WinRAR to extract.
    Run VTS_01_1 or whichever is the first vob that has all the info.

    I played it with Windows Media Player V9.

    On the todo list: Make it playable in any DVD player.


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    It sounds you may have already figure out. For future reference, cdfreaks forum is a good place to check. I know there are tools that will scan the cd and let you know the ecryption used. I don't recall what I used, was a long time ago, however, I know I got the info from that forum.

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    Don Wooma,
    >>Use WinRAR to extract.
    means: extract from ISO-image!?

    otherwise great tut0r ~

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